I want to offer another William Buhlman interview because this fabulous out-of-body experiencer and teacher talks about “spirituality” in an intelligent and down-to-earth way. In my view, he is right on about so many things such as–we are ALL psychic and paranormal abilities are not para anything but absolutely normal. However, it has become a fashion with out-of-body experiencers to claim that the realms they travel in are the afterlife. Here I would not agree. I’ve finally come to the conclusion that we cannot define the afterlife. Nor can we differentiate an afterlife where supposedly all the dead go from any other nonlocal reality.